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My thoughts:
Pro’s :
– If we combine K1/K2 all the way (heats and finals), we reduce total rounds from 18 (assuming 2 groups per series), to 12. That works out to potentially 2 hours saved from the total event time.
– Combining just the finals we only save 2 rounds, ie around 40 mins.
– More fun and challenge for all!Con’s:
– Less time between K1 races – may be an issue for ballast changes, repairs, etc
– Skill/competency of K2 drivers in managing the start (esp in future, with K3 upgraders)
– Lap chart- need 2 sets and can get confusing. Perhaps we could renumber the karts so that K2 are 20 and above? etc..[quote=saa73]
My thoughts:Pro’s :
– If we combine K1/K2 all the way (heats and finals), we reduce total rounds from 18 (assuming 2 groups per series), to 12. That works out to potentially 2 hours saved from the total event time.
– Combining just the finals we only save 2 rounds, ie around 40 mins.
– More fun and challenge for all!Con’s:
– Less time between K1 races – may be an issue for ballast changes, repairs, etc
– Skill/competency of K2 drivers in managing the start (esp in future, with K3 upgraders)
– Lap chart- need 2 sets and can get confusing. Perhaps we could renumber the karts so that K2 are 20 and above? etc..[/quote]
bahaya Bro…I’ve tried to overtaking someone during the race, suddently K1 kart passed by me on the right. It was very lucky that I’m awear of it. Or else..I think U all know what will happen…Don’t think of how to save the time….think of safety first…My opinion :
1) More karts on track, means more danger for sure irrespective of what class.
2) When you mix 2 classes, more maturity is very needed in ensuring the slower kart give in to the faster one.
3) In addition – K2 are not easy to start…..so make sure u start them first before letting the K1 out for the formation lap.
4) Resource wise – for scoring, no difference…..maybe even more confusion when K1 & K2 karts are locked in passing in formation….
5) The approach top speed between the 2 classes can be quite a difference…..Sat was NOT a true account of what this can be as it was wet….
Example for item 2.
Some will recall, I drove my private 125 kart in one of the earlier rounds…..and I can assure you, tho I had a higher top speed, no one gave way to me – not that I expect it and even tho I was not in the points. I think the racer in ALL OF US, will do the same – we naturally wun give in to the faster kart esp if someone in our same class is dicing close by!Summary – is time the issue for most now? If so, then this is POSSIBLE but you need plenty of discipline. I raced in KKS club races before on this format and always prayed hard, I dun get hit……125/piston ports.
If MY-kart emphasize on safty first, is a NO GO 🙂 I concur like jules mentioned in item 2. Reducing incidents and kart damages to K1
OK thanks for the feedback. I guess we took a risk on round 6 in view of the weather – but it was good to get feedback from a K2 perspective (Ajak) which illustrates the risk very clearly.
I would therefore agree that given the feedback, that this is a risky format and that there’s a lot of dependency on driver discipline, etc.
Best to shelve this idea as a long term option but I guess it may still be viable as a last resort option when faced with certain exceptional circumstances, eg our weather situation in rd 6…[quote=saa73]OK thanks for the feedback. I guess we took a risk on round 6 in view of the weather – but it was good to get feedback from a K2 perspective (Ajak) which illustrates the risk very clearly.
I would therefore agree that given the feedback, that this is a risky format and that there’s a lot of dependency on driver discipline, etc.
Best to shelve this idea as a long term option but I guess it may still be viable as a last resort option when faced with certain exceptional circumstances, eg our weather situation in rd 6…[/quote]
I dont mind paying for extra wet tires for k1 series in the future…
[quote=sabelt][quote=saa73]OK thanks for the feedback. I guess we took a risk on round 6 in view of the weather – but it was good to get feedback from a K2 perspective (Ajak) which illustrates the risk very clearly.
I would therefore agree that given the feedback, that this is a risky format and that there’s a lot of dependency on driver discipline, etc.
Best to shelve this idea as a long term option but I guess it may still be viable as a last resort option when faced with certain exceptional circumstances, eg our weather situation in rd 6…[/quote]
I dont mind paying for extra wet tires for k1 series in the future…
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Ramsey,A kart is not like a car. When u play in the rain, you will need to rebuild the engine immediately after….as water will find its way into the engine. Try mixing water with oil and add some sand/dirt and you have the best rubbing compound to wear your engine. How much is a re-built?
Then there the tyres which goes at RM600 plus a pop for new ones…..and surely everyone wants new ones so we have equal footing rite?
The cost will just add up and if you are willing to spend this, you wun be only playing My-Kart but KKS, RMC, AKOC too.
Just my 0.2 kupang worth.( harga minyak naik…)
[quote=Jules][quote=sabelt][quote=saa73]OK thanks for the feedback. I guess we took a risk on round 6 in view of the weather – but it was good to get feedback from a K2 perspective (Ajak) which illustrates the risk very clearly.
I would therefore agree that given the feedback, that this is a risky format and that there’s a lot of dependency on driver discipline, etc.
Best to shelve this idea as a long term option but I guess it may still be viable as a last resort option when faced with certain exceptional circumstances, eg our weather situation in rd 6…[/quote]
I dont mind paying for extra wet tires for k1 series in the future…
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Ramsey,A kart is not like a car. When u play in the rain, you will need to rebuild the engine immediately after….as water will find its way into the engine. Try mixing water with oil and add some sand/dirt and you have the best rubbing compound to wear your engine. How much is a re-built?
Then there the tyres which goes at RM600 plus a pop for new ones…..and surely everyone wants new ones so we have equal footing rite?
The cost will just add up and if you are willing to spend this, you wun be only playing My-Kart but KKS, RMC, AKOC too.
Just my 0.2 kupang worth.( harga minyak naik…)
[/quote]I saw somewhere (a video) in europe where they do race in a rain with 125 with proper rain kits. Yes they do race in wet. Ok maybe its not practical for CK to allow us to race in wet with 125.
Im ok with anything. As long as theres a common sense in between the drivers.
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