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yupp…was having a good look at it the other day…(oooppsss..pecah rahsia that I’ve been doing some winter testing…heheh:D)
looked really mean with the exhaust pipe sticking upwards on the side…and noticed the shifter stick too…even the front wheels got brakes..huhuhhh..wonder how fast does this thing goes??Yup – Wai Leong’s dad told me about this sometime back. CityKarting is currently testing this, and would not hurt if we have a go at testing the machine. See how it would compare to (say) the 80cc or 100cc karts they have now.
Apparently Modenas had build the engines sometime back, but somebody in KKS vetoed it saying it wasn’t good… so the programme to pursue it was scrapped.
A new myKART category would be good. Let’s see how Modenas can help further.
Sounds cool……I have always had a dream to build a kart from motorcycle engine………imagine a Swiss Hutless chassis with an Aprilia 125cc engine & gearbox!
Let’s see where this project leads to. It will be interesting coz the maintenance part is very important. A modenas bike engine will be much cheaper to maintain than a special kart racing engine and if the parts can be obtained from your local bike dealer everyone can own a kart.
below rm5k…. now thats entry level racing at its best!!!
even those little nitro 1/10 r.c. racers cost rm4k for the top of the range!!!hope Formula ‘ModStone’ becomes reality!!!!
feel like having a look at it tmrw…
….even the front wheels got brakes..huhuhhh..wonder how fast does this thing goes??[/quote]
According to Wai Leong, the front brakes were there fearing that the normal rear axle brake alone may not be enough to ‘tame’ the Modenas power/torque. It was subsequently found that, that’s not the case and the front brakes is not needed after all. The top speed can easily exceed 100kph; can reach 120 I believe, but there is not enough road to get to it anyway. The only ‘down side’, to me is the slightly lower acceleration for the Modenas compared to Yamaha 100. For less than RM5K and hopefully a much lower rental rate than what we are paying for the Yamaha 100 today, who would really complain?…….I don’t know.
Actually, I was to have tested it after our 1st round….for a feedback to City Karting. However this was canned as it was not ready as the gears were not correctly sorted out. ( & I ran out of time too ) It’s now at a shop having its exhaust pipe custome made…..
Heard it laps around the Yamaha times BUT the thrill will be in the shifting of gears!
Let’s see how this turns out but it will be a good class to start – local engine class and I hope NO MODS.
No mods? Alvin will be very disappointed :p hehehe
Yes, the gearshift will make the new machine a very interesting entry class of racing. Except for the exhaust, will all the parts be sourced from Modenas bikes i.e. engine, gearbox, brakes? How about the chassis – is that local too? Since the exhaust is custom made, it must be local – perhaps RIMUS brand?
Sounds like a great entry level karting – if it has the same lap times as the Yamaha 100s. RM5k? pretty good price.
Hopefully the engine and parts are not so customized that we cannot get replacement from any bike shop or from Modenas.
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How about the chassis – is that local too? Since the exhaust is custom made, it must be local – perhaps RIMUS brand?[/quote]We were told that City Karting will import the tubular frames preformed but will do the welding and assembly here thus cutting costs and acquire know how in the process. Indeed, the idea is also to keep the Modenas bike engine almost in original configuration to allow owners to do maintenance with the local motorbike shops. Yes, it remain to be seen how far this will be realise. What will happen when there are 50 or more mykarters with their own machines practising on the eve of Round No…..in category K2.1 Open Formula hehehe! Each having some secret enhancements somewhere. Look like Fazz will have to draw up new dos and donts perhaps.
Look like Fazz will have to draw up new dos and donts perhaps.[/quote]
Is kinda very good good situation here. But, it may not be that easy as i guess some regulation are required to ensure safety. Or else, the modification will be unlimited… like adding NOS??? kuz kidding…
Fellas,
I’m looking at the possibility of bringing in used karts from Japan.
This is still only a possibility for now,nothing has been confirmed as yet.
I know someone whose son works in a chop-shop,the son travels to Japan now and then to bring in these chop parts,and I posed the question if it is possible to bring in used karts,and he said no problem!
Yeah right,no problem will usually turn out into ‘big problem’ later on!
Anyways,he said he will try to bring in a couple of units in March (his next trip),and I’ll see how easy/difficult are the arrangements.
Problem is,not being a karter himself,he probably wouldn’t know if the units he’s bringing in is of any good,and I don’t think he will have the time to actually look for good units.
Any tips here…?[quote=ed]Fellas,
Problem is,not being a karter himself,he probably wouldn’t know if the units he’s bringing in is of any good,and I don’t think he will have the time to actually look for good units.
Any tips here…? [/quote]You are right there Ed, Let him bring in a couple of used karts first. The bottom line is whether it is economically worthwhile for the effort taken. The volume and demand will dictate the selling price as well as the condition of the used karts. In other words test the market with a few units initially. Interesting idea, imported used car yes, but have never thought of imported used karts.
Guys,
A kart has a FINITE lifespan as the chassis will stiffen over time and usage from the flexing….so you buy the used units at your own risk cos there’s no test procedure for this…and being a race machine, you need every bit to help ur lap times!
There’s also an issue of spares……and the Jap karts are probably YAMAHA make which is non-existent here.
If you want to buy it for just puttering around, then I think there’s plenty of local avenues around and will safe you some headaches later.
Have fun & good luck! In any case, this is the wrong thread to raise this issue too.
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How about the chassis – is that local too? Since the exhaust is custom made, it must be local – perhaps RIMUS brand?[/quote]We were told that City Karting will import the tubular frames preformed but will do the welding and assembly here thus cutting costs and acquire know how in the process. Indeed, the idea is also to keep the Modenas bike engine almost in original configuration to allow owners to do maintenance with the local motorbike shops. Yes, it remain to be seen how far this will be realise. What will happen when there are 50 or more mykarters with their own machines practising on the eve of Round No…..in category K2.1 Open Formula hehehe! Each having some secret enhancements somewhere. Look like Fazz will have to draw up new dos and donts perhaps.[/quote]
Before we all get to excited about the Made in Malaysia kart…do understand that it takes a HUGE effort from all to get this running.
I would not even think about the possibility of chassis manufacture rite now and by the way, this idea was around for a while. The material of the chassis is likely chrome molybdenum alloy or similar, so you must have to rite tools to cut, bend and weld the stuff. A proper job should then have the rite coating/painting later as well.
As not to dampen the spirit of anyone on this, it would be very good if the engine/exhaust can be made to run well for any generic kart chassis. The chassis deal is the next step, in cost optimising.
Once the R&D is over, I will suggest to City KArting that MyKart be allowed to make a few races with them ( for a fee ) when a small fleet is available – as a showcase.
This will surely kick start the whole concept of a giving the public a reasonably priced kart and grassroot racing promotion in tandem – win win for City Karting, MyKart and the general public.
What do u guys think? If you can tell me how much you are willing to pay for such a kart ownership – all the better but RM5K will not get u a new imported chassis, okie. Please take note.
Cheers
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