Discussions on future myKART enduros

[TheFazz]

I would like to know whether you guys would be interested in maintaining the same teams or have different drivers for each enduro event.

I would like to make the enduro series meaningful, and skewed more towards team strategy, and place more attention on total team weight. Would prefer to take 70kg as the average weight… so that a team of 4 should weigh 280kgs minimum.

We should also bear in mind the variability of rental karts and thus look into the possibility of swapping karts to balance the playing field a bit.

Give me your thoughts… and keep this discussion going.

[siewweng]

fazz.. sorry to say for tail happy racing, we cant maintain the same team members as i am going off to melb soon.

[TheFazz]

[quote=siewweng]fazz.. sorry to say for tail happy racing, we cant maintain the same team members as i am going off to melb soon.[/quote]

Well – as so often happens in F1… we get another driver in. 🙂

[TheFazz]

Anybody have any views about the next myKART Mega Enduro?

I have a conundrum: judging from previous enduro and on going 2005 KART series response, we may potentially have more than 60 drivers keen to participate in the next enduro and potentially 70 drivers by the last enduro of the year!

Anything more than 4 drivers per team I think is too messy. So assuming we limit to max 4 per team… then we will have 15 to 18 teams, but Citykarting can only run max 12 x 80cc karts as for now.

So we may have to split the 15/18 teams into 2 groups.

This is not ideal as enduro races depend on distance covered within the same timeframe… but track and kart conditions at differnt times of the day can result in a significant difference in performance and hence distance covered.

Not keen on having a sprint race to decide the overall enduro champion, so we need a way to rank teams as fairly as possible.

Any thoughts?

[dimples]

aiyo … for me 10 minutes in a kart and my badan sakit so I think that for me this Enduro thing will have to be a future event.

So in the meantime, me will bring me pom-poms and cheer you big boys from the tyres … hehe! 🙂

[TheFazz]

[quote=dimples]So in the meantime, me will bring me pom-poms and cheer you big boys from the tyres … hehe! :)[/quote]

can oso.

[alfagta]

Hi Fazz!
Since the last enduro was very successful format,we can always follow the same format,just to more strict in the rules & regulation for late participants,no last min. driver change,marshal standby at the pit entrance & refuel area ……
i was thinking this time ,i wan do 4 hour 80cc enduro with 7 pit stop for 10 mins for drivers change at every 25 mins break.
then we can have 8 drivers for a team,if we have 12 karts ,there will be 96 participants…..
how this sound good?

[TheFazz]

what if one team gets a crap kart? and if another gets a super fast one?

4 hours will become a chore if there’s nothing the team can do to improve their positions.

[siewweng]

fazz, i thought your 4 x 45 minute/driver enduro is pretty good , with 3 x 1 hour (or 4 x 45 mins sprints). that way, each team get to use 3(or 4) different karts.
but it will just lenghten the duration and if timing system screws up, its gonna very messy.

i like that idea, too bad cant try it 🙁

[alfagta]

then we have to ballot the karts one day before the race, the team will test it & give complaint on the same day with 4 new tyres & new brakes….coz also anything can happen at 4 hours race…like weather too…
also then have to lock up the karts engine with paint on every nut & screw,so that no one can touch anything overnight….
something like car races….
but during the last enduro ,i think citykarting setup the karts very equally only they complaint about the barkes…
really looking forward for it & maybe can be call the extreme mega 4hours endurance race…..

[TheFazz]

[quote=alfagta]then we have to ballot the karts one day before the race, the team will test it & give complaint on the same day with 4 new tyres & new brakes….coz also anything can happen at 4 hours race…like weather too…
also then have to lock up the karts engine with paint on every nut & screw,so that no one can touch anything overnight….[/quote]

That is one way (but will depend on our price with CityKarting, I expect)… any other options?

[alfagta]

pricewise ,like the last enduro,we charge rm400 perteam,that is rm100 per participant,also good respone & shouldn’t a problem,maybe we can charge at rm800 0r a bit more for a team for 4hrs endo.
can any members give some suggestion on this price?
maybe we allow the team to get their own sponsors ,that will cut down their participants cost,i can get the sponsors stickers stick to their chosen kart then….
I think at Rd 2,after the race ,we find a nice place to discuss in this matter?

[TheFazz]

Race fee would I guess depend on the prizes. The PanGlobal AlexYoong F1 driver search charged RM100 per driver for one assured 8 lap race… and if you are lucky (or good.. *grin*), you get another 8 lap race. And if you qualify, you get one more in the GrandFinals.

That is about RM33 per race. Currently CityKarting charges myKART RM80 for 3 assured races. Only different, PanGlobal has a carrot at the end of the year of a chance to test drive the Formula BMW Asia car… which lucky people like Shahrul Asraf, and Joon Hiang from myKART managed to do.

So, if we can get an attractice prize (say a Panasonic HiFi set – Alvin J, hint hint wink wink)… I believe many would not mind paying RM100 to RM150 for an enduro which gives them 20mins track time.

[alfagta]

sponsors for prizes is most important then….
will try to work out to bring a main sponsor in.
let say like M’sia GP main sponsor is Petronas,they called it
“Petronas F1 GP”
If we can get few thousand buck from them,we can also call
“Petronas MyKart Endurance”
or
“Shell MyKart Endurance”
we have to set a price for main sponsor but need to prepare the sponsorship letters from MyKart with the recognation from citykarting & kartquest or other go-kart track owner first!
Then we even get maybe a trip to Bali for the champion….

[TheFazz]

John raised a thought on driver movements between events.

This is quite important to ensure continuity of certain teams scoring. However, not sure whether easy to implement having the same team of drivers attending all enduro events.

An alternative thinking however, is having drivers swap teams except for the “team principles”. So, say you are team principle for Fast n Furious -then your team will score as long as you participate in the event. Your teammates may be anybody but along one of the following two options (need to decide on approach soon):[list=a]
[*]randomly drawn out of the hat (drivers by weight category)
[*]self managed by team principle as long as within the weight limit (suggest average of 70kgs per driver)
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Need to work this further, so further discussion is welcomed. Please constrain your discussions on the enduro format in this forum thread for ease of reference / revisit.

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