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My condolence to the deceased family.
Taken from the clipping of NST
http://www.nst.com.my/NST/Article/vArt?did=20070409074141She was karting on a 4T kart.
Sigh, I feel so sad to hear of such an accident. Karting is supposed to be fun. Can’t imagine how a harmless outing can be come a tragedy.
I have had a few close calls when racing at that track in the past. Even a few of my Shell colleagues have also experienced it too.
I have never liked this track. It’s just too dangerous especially if you are racing a high powered kart. I heard that in the past, their tyre barriers were filled with sand which offered no protection to the karter but instead do more harm.
once again pls hold judgement on the track operator and owners. if there’s anything to discuss with them, let’s do it directly with the respective parties. bear in mind, my-kart forums are open to public viewing… i know that a number of the motorsports authorities and related parties visit our site once in a while…
Hi guys .. my heart goes out to the family of the deceased .. being extremely new and considering myself as a “baby” in this motorsport i must say my adrenaline rush are mixed with fear at the moment . Nevertheless i will not give up easily and pursue to be at least a “good” (im far below average at the moment ) lady racer 😉
Risk improvement measures should be top priority for all parties during the meeting .. put up rules and regulations clearly huge fonts if necessary,do’s and dont’s clearly at the wall of the track .. with pictures if need be .. our brains tends to digest/process colours and pictures better than datas/words ..i dont see that at the tracks.
Maintenance of the track is important factor as well, no driving on wet tracks etc , it was raining on saturday ya (??!!) .. b4 signing your life away to the insurance company the operator should at least educate the public or provide flyers on the karting do’s and donts(if they dont like to be repeating the rules again and again)then allow them to drive .. but then this tragedy is fated. We had to lose a life to open other eyes and minds .. Lets not point fingers but hope to see better risk mgt/improvements in future. :up:
[quote=lynda].. b4 signing your life away to the insurance company the operator should at least educate the public or provide flyers on the karting do’s and donts(if they dont like to be repeating the rules again and again)then allow them to drive .. but then this tragedy is fated. We had to lose a life to open other eyes and minds .. Lets not point fingers but hope to see better risk mgt/improvements in future. :up: [/quote]
you’re correct darling, early prevention is a must..like..getting yourself a racing suit! when can I see you in a gorgeous pink sparco suit!?? hehehe 😛
[quote=mononoke hime][quote=lynda].. b4 signing your life away to the insurance company the operator should at least educate the public or provide flyers on the karting do’s and donts(if they dont like to be repeating the rules again and again)then allow them to drive .. but then this tragedy is fated. We had to lose a life to open other eyes and minds .. Lets not point fingers but hope to see better risk mgt/improvements in future. :up: [/quote]
you’re correct darling, early prevention is a must..like..getting yourself a racing suit! when can I see you in a gorgeous pink sparco suit!?? hehehe 😛
[/quote] pink suit?? nooo…i’m opening a thread on this!!pink is cool … its different .. its chic ..its me hahaha.. black and pink hmmm .. im getting a suit colour to be advise most likely is the sparco pink 😛
Hi all,
I just thought it was rather ackward for someone to die in a 4 stroke leisure kart, which purpose is to allow slow and safe ‘racing’ for the general public. The use of these karts should be so safe that anyone can turn up at a leisure karting track to have some fun without having to worry about such consequences.
I see 2 points that we can learn from this:
1) Perhaps the minimum driver’s protection gear should be increased, ie: make rib cage protector and neck brace mandatory just like helmets
2) Perhaps there was a weak design of the track or one of the safety components( eg: the sand embankment) of that track at that corner
Best Regards,
Brian.
cyclonite – you are right about the awkwardness of the 4 stroke kart flipping over the fence. some went horribly wrong somewhere, and we should learn from it.
[quote=TheFazz]cyclonite – you are right about the awkwardness of the 4 stroke kart flipping over the fence. some went horribly wrong somewhere, and we should learn from it.[/quote]
Ever thought that maybe the kart was running in the opposite direction? as in anti-clockwise? A tad hard to believe, but consider it.. That corner is the slowest corner, and if you’re coming from where you should be coming normally, you’d be leaning right, then left, then full throttle ahead.. If you are coming anti-clockwise, then the slowest corner is turned into the most dangerous corner because you’re at full throttle first, then try to break in time for that corner…
Think about it.. 4 stroke can get air-borne? at the slowest corner?.. with that sand embankment there?.. It’s like going up a ramp.
i feel is the front tires hitting the rear tires of the front kart?
should not happen on 4 stroke kart pa…
[quote=cyclonite]Hi all,
I just thought it was rather ackward for someone to die in a 4 stroke leisure kart, which purpose is to allow slow and safe ‘racing’ for the general public. The use of these karts should be so safe that anyone can turn up at a leisure karting track to have some fun without having to worry about such consequences.
I see 2 points that we can learn from this:
1) Perhaps the minimum driver’s protection gear should be increased, ie: make rib cage protector and neck brace mandatory just like helmets
2) Perhaps there was a weak design of the track or one of the safety components( eg: the sand embankment) of that track at that corner
Best Regards,
Brian.[/quote]
another to add… and this applies to all tracks.
3) horribly maintained karts. how many of us have sat in karts with next to nothing brakes, bent chassis or misaligned axle that send u swinging the moment u hit the brakes. steering wheel that has screws that are protruding out in a dangerous manner and its ALL OK to drive around at 70kph without the front bumper absorbing any impact!!! screw your ankle and toes if u ever get caught in a collision.i still remember almost falling into that big ass hole (entry turn 12) at shah alam track early last year…dunno whats the status now, but i remember the short term remedy was just filling it with tyres.
its really shallow to think that just because its a 9bhp kart, u are invincible and pretty much safe. well.. humans can expect trauma at a relatively low speed already. i remember another gokart death in melbourne last year, bear in mind the kart was a measly 6.5bhp and it was an indoor track.
i rather enjoy the thrills of driving slow in my car now.
Think of the worse case scenario:
Assuming the women driver was a complete novice, she somehow drove straight into the sand embankment at top speed, panicked and kept her right foot planted on the throttle because she was too stunt to think what her reaction should be.
Now lets assume all this happened at top speed (60kph?) and there was her impact was enough to get her front wheels up the embankment. From then on, unfortunately her rear wheels caught on to something grippy and since her throttle was full it provided enough traction to bring the kart over the sand embankment.
The 1 meter fence may be an exaggeration. It could have been lower. OR, the fence could be quite low relative to the sand embankment.
Anyhow, there’s no point in my coming up with theories now as the thruth will probably surface soon.
Cheers,
Brian.
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