K1 event in Rd 3

[sabelt]

I dont see any problem too since most of us already watched him race before.

[TheFazz]

[quote=naza]Question : Do we allow him to participate in the forthcoming k1 race? This request is anticipated.[/quote]

no problems.

[Jules]

start him at the back for heat 1 and monitor his race conduct.

[naza]

[quote=Jules]start him at the back for heat 1 and monitor his race conduct.[/quote]

Folks,
Ikhwan is 15 years old and is driving Swiss Hutless / Rotax Junior 125 kart. The junior max engine has less power (15 kW @ 8500 rpm, Torque – 17Nm) but the lower drivers’ weight will make up the slack against the Senior max power (21 kW @ 11500 rpm, Torque – 21 Nm). In this regard, and in addition to Jules suggestion above, I am suggesting that we also adopt the 2006 Max Challenge weight minimum for Juniors :

Weight:
Minimum of 145 kg including driver at all times.

Ok or not?

[TheFazz]

[quote=naza]Ikhwan is 15 years old and is driving Swiss Hutless / Rotax Junior 125 kart. The junior max engine has less power (15 kW @ 8500 rpm, Torque – 17Nm) but the lower drivers’ weight will make up the slack against the Senior max power (21 kW @ 11500 rpm, Torque – 21 Nm). In this regard, and in addition to Jules suggestion above, I am suggesting that we also adopt the 2006 Max Challenge weight minimum for Juniors :

Weight:
Minimum of 145 kg including driver at all times.

Ok or not?[/quote]

agree to have minimum weights. but how does this reconcile with the minimum 160kg weight for seniors? setting the minimum weight is the tricky part. we want parity as far as possible. although it may be moot as winners’ ballast is added.

thoughts?

[Nohad]

[quote=naza]If the number of k1 karters is less than 6, than run it together with one of the k2 groups, however, the number of laps for k2 is only eight which I felt is too low for the k1 group. It was 10 laps for the heats and 12 laps for the finals of k1 group. The other option is to run the k1 race separately and cancel it if the number of karters is less than 6.

Any ideas?[/quote]

From my personal point of view, if we have more than 8 K1 participants, we shall run the event separately from K2.

Need to nego with CK for a little more time to run my-KART event.

[naza]

[quote=TheFazz][quote=naza]Ikhwan is 15 years old and is driving Swiss Hutless / Rotax Junior 125 kart. The junior max engine has less power (15 kW @ 8500 rpm, Torque – 17Nm) but the lower drivers’ weight will make up the slack against the Senior max power (21 kW @ 11500 rpm, Torque – 21 Nm). In this regard, and in addition to Jules suggestion above, I am suggesting that we also adopt the 2006 Max Challenge weight minimum for Juniors :

Weight:
Minimum of 145 kg including driver at all times.

Ok or not?[/quote]

agree to have minimum weights. but how does this reconcile with the minimum 160kg weight for seniors? setting the minimum weight is the tricky part. we want parity as far as possible. although it may be moot as winners’ ballast is added.

thoughts?[/quote]
I see Ikhwan as a sole Junior max 125 entrant just running within a Senior 125 race. However his final position is of no significance to the seniors and he does not earn any points….perhaps just the glory and experience gained until there are more Junior entries to justify a separate race. If he wishes to earn the points, than the 160 kg minimum weight must be complied with plus change the engine to senior max…..in my view.

[naza]

Folks /Luen,

The K1 items below requires the Committee’s acceptance:

1. Race Format
– Starting Grid : base on current k2 / k3 seedings. New drivers will be placed at the back.

– (Manual lap chart to be use cos transponders are not use for this race)
– Formation and warm up : 3 laps max.

– Heat 1 : 10 laps
– Heat 2 : 10 laps
– Final : 12 laps

2. Race Weight
– Senior 125 – minimum 160 kg at the end of race.
– Junior 125 – minimum 145 kg at the end of race.

3. Race Control Tyre
– APEXI 65 (currently retailed by CK)

4. Race Fee
Rm 100 – Fuel + track fee + pit crew support (Option to extend after 2 pm – RM 180.00)
Note that drivers whose kart is brought in from outside must provide their own mechanic

Question 1 : what about discounts for club members…?

Folks, please amend or add further notes where necessary

[TheFazz]

[quote=naza]Folks /Luen,

The K1 items below requires the Committee’s acceptance:

1. Race Format
– Starting Grid : base on current k2 / k3 seedings. New drivers will be placed at the back.

– (Manual lap chart to be use cos transponders are not use for this race)
– Formation and warm up : 3 laps max.

– Heat 1 : 10 laps
– Heat 2 : 10 laps
– Final : 12 laps

2. Race Weight
– Senior 125 – minimum 160 kg at the end of race.
– Junior 125 – minimum 145 kg at the end of race.

3. Race Control Tyre
– APEXI 65 (currently retailed by CK)

4. Race Fee
Rm 100 – Fuel + track fee + pit crew support (Option to extend after 2 pm – RM 180.00)
Note that drivers whose kart is brought in from outside must provide their own mechanic

Question 1 : what about discounts for club members…?

Folks, please amend or add further notes where necessary[/quote]

I am agreeable to all the above. I only thought that the RM100 race fee is only to my-KART members? non-members based on normal walk in rates?

[Nohad]

[quote=TheFazz]I am agreeable to all the above. I only thought that the RM100 race fee is only to my-KART members? non-members based on normal walk in rates?[/quote]

AP agreed to have the fee at RM100/- for those having karts at CK and non-CK customers.

RM100 will cover the track fee, fuel & mechanic service during the race for CK customers.

For those non-CK customers, RM100 will cover the track fee, fuel + mechanic service for starting & chain lube only.

[luen]

RM100 is CK to My-KART for the K1 series, since MY-KART is the event organiser, we do have the right to name the price to non-members. Agree?

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neat, balance and practical

[luen]

[quote=naza]Folks /Luen,

The K1 items below requires the Committee’s acceptance:

1. Race Format
– Starting Grid : base on current k2 / k3 seedings. New drivers will be placed at the back.

– (Manual lap chart to be use cos transponders are not use for this race)
– Formation and warm up : 3 laps max.

– Heat 1 : 10 laps
– Heat 2 : 10 laps
– Final : 12 laps

2. Race Weight
– Senior 125 – minimum 160 kg at the end of race.
– Junior 125 – minimum 145 kg at the end of race.

3. Race Control Tyre
– APEXI 65 (currently retailed by CK)

4. Race Fee
Rm 100 – Fuel + track fee + pit crew support (Option to extend after 2 pm – RM 180.00)
Note that drivers whose kart is brought in from outside must provide their own mechanic

Question 1 : what about discounts for club members…?

Folks, please amend or add further notes where necessary[/quote]

I propose ran heat 1 at 12 laps, reason that it will cold start, hard compound may need a little more time to set-in and so are the drivers.

for your Question 1 is my suggestion as my reply to Nohad, how about that? charging RM120
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neat, balance and practical

[Nohad]

[quote=luen]RM100 is CK to My-KART for the K1 series, since MY-KART is the event organiser, we do have the right to name the price to non-members. Agree?

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neat, balance and practical[/quote]

Agree

[naza]

[quote=luen]

I propose ran heat 1 at 12 laps, reason that it will cold start, hard compound may need a little more time to set-in and so are the drivers.[/quote]
Ok Heat 1 = 12 laps, Heat 2 = ??, Final = ??

[quote=luen]
for your Question 1 is my suggestion as my reply to Nohad, how about that? charging RM120 [/quote]

….need agreement from the rest laa..

[TheFazz]

i agree to the price & laps recommended by luen.

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