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[quote=luen]true true true. Wow it just like having affair out there, can not let wife know about the truth and is costly….
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neat, balance and practical[/quote][IMG]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l34/nohadv6/Icons/icon_smile_big.gif[/IMG]
[quote=luen]true true true. Wow it just like having affair out there, can not let wife know about the truth and is costly….
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neat, balance and practical[/quote]hahaha man.. is all of us sharing the same concept??
Don’t Just DRive IT, fEEL it!!!
[quote=Nohad]
They say with that kind of money, they can buy small diamond earrings (to me it is just stone only what!) or nice leather handbags. Betul tak bpk Naza?[/quote]
Look around, except for Yazid’s and perhaps a few more, wives are literally missing from the scene. For me, racing and its cost is not a subject to discuss with my missus. Its the same when she buys a new handbag and matching shoes to add to the cupboard which has already scores of the same thing. You see, things like these do not always have a logical explanation for it……..thats the beauty (poor Alvin, wonder whether he can follow this).
KI series as a means to upgrade driving, maintenence and setting up skills:
It is not too difficult to see that there is no way to learn and upgrade one’s skill if you do not have your own kart. I found that there was a limit to the extend I and Tarmizi can share a kart. First, we are physically different and hence the seating size and position from the steering wheel and pedals. To complicate matters, your weight and how far you sit back or front has an effect on how the rear behaves when brakes are applied and when powering out of the cornor……..bla bla bla, etc, etc etc! .After that you have to experiment with different settings and record them cos thats how we can improve…..there are books on this. In other words, you can’t do these things with rented karts and so improving one’s karting skills on or off track is going to be an uphill task guys.
Sorry , but I dont see a short cut to preparing mykarters to progress higher in terms of karting skills. I guess to me the most important question is how high are each individual aiming for…that will lead to the big decision.
Just like to have a small feedback survey from the private kart drivers & rental kart drivers who took part on 2 Dec 06.
What is your finding of the race? Is it how the K1 series suppose to be? Rental kart driver finding of the rental karts? Pricing?
Feel free to post any other questions as I believe K1 could improve with the bugbears (if any) are solved.
For me, I find it a fantastic event (eventhough we were a little indecisive to run the race or not due to the changing weather). What more when we have 13 or 14 drivers competing all at one go, this is how I find racing should be.
The format of time trial, Heat 1 & 2 + final is agreeable. Thanks to Jules input from his vast experience in racing. Somehow, I would prefer 12 laps for Heat 1 & 2 and 15 laps for Final becos I find the races ended too quickly.
Somehow I noticed there is quite a big difference in lap speed between private own karts & rental karts. I boiled it down more to driver’s experience that make the difference.
For me, the kart that I got somehow doesn’t fit me well, it is not the kart that I tested earlier. The seating is slightly too short (more like ladies size kart) and very weak brakes. (I overshot some of the apex despite stomping on the brakes) Personally I find these problems wouldn’t exist with privately owned karts and the competition will be very much closer.
How could we prevent the mix-up of tested karts in future?Just like to find out, as all are on the same type of tyres, did you experienced bad understeering? Is it the characteristic of the tyre grade?
Mine did, It only got slightly better during the 2nd half of the final race when the tyres are nicely scrubbed & warmed up.RM500/- is a bit steep, RM450/- will be fine considering that the tyres could be used for 2 racing weekends.
i had no trouble with my kart’s power, but the brakes were awful. I was pumping at it as soon as I approached the start/finish line…
[quote=saa73]i had no trouble with my kart’s power, but the brakes were awful. I was pumping at it as soon as I approached the start/finish line…[/quote]
Mine too. Apart from the start/finish line, I have to brake hard just immediately after the straight kink or else I’ll end up on someone’s rear end or overshoot the right corner and the brake pads take some time to warm-up.
wonder what will be the price for k1 charging for the normal series, is that only RM180 no surplus charge?
Overall I am satisfied with the K1 debut that we had last few weeks, just my kart let me down, not to complaint about it but myself did not setup properly.
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neat, balance and practicalI had an enjoyable outing despite my own kart being uncompetitive. This had more to do with my lack of attention to the technical details of the kart. my kart suffered from a sticking clutch for the heats. in qualifying i had problems with the gearing.
the clutch problem was fixed for the final, but the kart lacked bottom end. coupled with a poor starting grid position, i only managed to finish 10th on merit, and subsequently got promoted to 7th due to disqualifications of other drivers who finished ahead of me.
the format was good and i was happy with the number of laps. i liked the 14 kart field all in one go. the more the better (to a point).
the tyres were alright i thought, and i was comfortable with them… although tended to overshoot my braking points.
the starting procedure could be improved further by having drivers line up on the dummy grid earlier as the other races are underway. the dummy grid may have to be moved a little back to allow space for other karts to get in and out of the pitlane area.
concern for me is the open category. as a once off, this is ok. but over a season – it will start to get tiresome as some makes of karts may not be in a position to challenge for significant points. it was rather like f1… i could only hope of a 5th place position at best knowing that jules, mizi, fiki and muhaymin were clearly a class above everyone else.
as for the price – i am ok if it is RM500 or less. I believe the tyres can be proven to run for over 3 events… so that should bring the cost down.
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http://www.thefazz.com/me[quote=saa73]………Personally for me, I can’t afford to do both K1 & K2. My wife almost had a seizure when she found out how much I paid for the K1 event last Sat..and obviously that night we had a nice dinner outing in a nice restaurant to appease her![/quote]
How come we can’t comment on how much they pay for hairdo, manicures, handbags, etc………one trip to their hairstylist can pay for whole year haircut for most of us.
[quote=Nohad]
Just like to find out, as all are on the same type of tyres, did you experienced bad understeering? Is it the characteristic of the tyre grade?
Mine did, It only got slightly better during the 2nd half of the final race when the tyres are nicely scrubbed & warmed up.
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Very rarely do you have understeer that gets better the longer you run. Usually it’ll just get worse.. one possibility could be that your front pressures were too low and only got up to the proper pressures during the longer race?Mikko,
I dun think any of the drivers checked their own tyres so let’s hope this improves……which is what K1 is all about – learning the technicals in kart preparation as well as driving.Guys,
EVERYONE will have brake problems – ask ALVIN JOSEPH. He drives a private kart as well and for your info, I had brake issues too. BUT the explanation is simple – it’s the hard compound tyres needing an early brake application.Once again – the issue of differing performance of private vs rental karts is raised and I can only say it wun go away until you all race your own kart. I can say for now – the difference you see in speed or lap times is very driver related, less machine cos the tyres will level out any huge power advantage you have. I can also confirm that all the trick/latest chassis has less advantage with these tyres, as seen in Rd 4 & 5 Rok race this year…..the trick chassis respond better to soft compound tyres. Any amount of changing the setup amounted to little difference, so it was very up to driver to compensate and adjust his driving style.
Maybe Mikko can share his view on these APS65 tyres.
I have no issues with the race but a 12/12/15 laps is fine. The weighing-in at end is also fine.
Cheers.
[quote=Jules]Mikko,
I dun think any of the drivers checked their own tyres so let’s hope this improves……which is what K1 is all about – learning the technicals in kart preparation as well as driving.[/quote]For me I’ll try to remember to do that in future. Tend to forget when have to see that the other races are organised and rushed back to get ready for the ride.
Anorther problem is no experience on the characteristic of these tyres.[quote=Jules]EVERYONE will have brake problems – ask ALVIN JOSEPH. He drives a private kart as well and for your info, I had brake issues too. BUT the explanation is simple – it’s the hard compound tyres needing an early brake application.[/quote]
I don’t know about others but what i face is failure on the brakes and not due to lack of grip by the tyres. When I took the kart out for the time trial, there was practically only 30-40% braking efficiency. I have this habit of always warming the brakes on my outlap and when I hit the brakes on the end of the straight, the kart didn’t slow down at all. I took the kart in to check on the 2nd lap and when the mechanics tested the brakes by pressing the lever of the brakes and pulling the kart, the kart still move slightly.They did nothing and told me just to warm-up the brakes more. It is just like putting hard compound local brake pads on your japaneses car instead of the softer/medium compound japanese brake pads.
Correct if I’m wrong, I believe Alvin has not driven his kart for awhile and it should not be a surprise if his kart is not in tip-top condition.
[quote=Jules]Once again – the issue of differing performance of private vs rental karts is raised and I can only say it wun go away until you all race your own kart. I can say for now – the difference you see in speed or lap times is very driver related, less machine cos the tyres will level out any huge power advantage you have.[/quote]
Yup, as I mentioned in the early threads that I find it boiled down to the experience of the drivers rather than kart.
It is not easy to gain much experience if just depending on rental kart only. Moreover the 125cc rental kart for walk-in practise is not cheap. If I’m not wrong, the rental rate is RM180/- for 10 minutes. You could be practising the whole day on private kart excluding the tyre cost.
MORAL of the story : Get your OWN kart and fiddle with it.
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