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[quote=naza][quote=mikko]….. In heat 1 I got slower and slower as the kart bogged down out of the corners the further the race went and eventually ended up in 7th I think.
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Mikko,
The 3+ old kart you were on got slower and slower as the race progresses? Could it be that the kart is less flexible causing it to “dig” in the cornors? The way out is possibly to use softer axle?
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Care to explain more on why it is digging in the corners and how softer axle will help? Why old kart are less flexible?[quote=naza]
The 3+ old kart you were on got slower and slower as the race progresses? Could it be that the kart is less flexible causing it to “dig” in the cornors?
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I don’t know about all the technical details but I know that the main problem with old chassis’ is that they over-grip on corner exit on the back of the kart and bog down the engine. The thought as you said is that the metal “crystallizes” and becomes brittle and doesn’t flex as well – then again others say that it flexes too much – but all agree that performance of a chassis over time fades away. This is why top drivers with the budget might go through 5 or more chassis during a karting season.I had a kart a few years ago that was good for 1 lap and one lap only – I could qualify it at the front of the grid but by lap 10 I’d be back in 10th place with laptimes 1.5sec off my qualifying times. :O
[quote]The way out is possibly to use softer axle?[/quote]
We were trying everything to go get grip out of the back – soft axle, shorter soft axle, short rear hubs, lower ride height etc. etc…. since none of that was working we decided to go for a hard axle for the pre-final and went with an even harder one for the final which helped even more, I only started going slower out of the corners after about 15 laps rather than 5-8. It’s the opposite of what I thought would work but it did. It’s possible that we weren’t generating enough grip in the back tyres to lift the inside-rear which in turn caused the bog and the harder axle helped this while the softer axles just made it worse. 🙂[quote=mikko]then get repeatedly rammed by an eager kid who didn’t have his father at the track (he drives clean when his dad is watching)..[/quote]
Who was the eager kid?
Yeah… I saw the eager kid doings clearly from the the stand at T1. He just don’t like Mikko to be infront of him and does what he can to distract Mikko. It was a Toni Kart, Kart # 5 if I am not mistaken.
eager kid? ha ha…..he tried to run me off the track once in QUALIFYING…..
and one day, his atics will be rewarded since he is into bigger machines as well, where an off is a much painful and expensive affair…
Phew…. he already had that experience in Sentul Indonesia recently. I was told he temporarily lost his memory. the local insurance would classify it as “total loss” when he hit one of the wall at the track.
[quote=yazidm]Phew…. he already had that experience in Sentul Indonesia recently. I was told he temporarily lost his memory. the local insurance would classify it as “total loss” when he hit one of the wall at the track.[/quote]
OUCH. Guess some ppl either don’t learn or they have VERY DEEP pockets 😀[quote=RawFlesh]
they have VERY DEEP pockets 😀 [/quote]
When Petronas pays for all damages you don’t need pockets. 😕Hey Guys
Quit picking on Imran. If bumping is illegal you should have complained then and DQ’d him. But I saw a lot of bumping as well in European races and they appear fine wiith it. As most will know.. its all part of racing.. If i remember correctly the senior championship leader was crashed into by an overzealous kid in the pre-final of the last round..
KGkart,
No one has mentioned any names except you, so please remember this.
May I know what capacity are you replying this in? If you are the concerned driver’s father – I will give you a wide margin since I am also a parent myself and understand the defensive reply.
From my end – I am merely relating my personal experience with concerned party at the AKOC races last year which if you are keen to know, is my 1st time mentioning this incident to anyone.
For me, he is making a career out of this and me, enjoying the sports and hence I left this incident as such. No protest needed but opinions formed.
Anyhow since the issue was brought by some on the bumping on a very recent race, his driving atitude came into question.
I find your answer on this most interesting and I would like to offer you an analogy on on track bumping.
Not getting caught while doing illegal U-turns at traffic lights ( unless sign posted otherwise ) does not mean its legal. As he is progressing higher in the sports ( which is good ), the posters who mentioned about his frequent bumping could be concerned that he may carry such unhealthy driving habits in Formula cars and later pay the price.
By the way, it is illegal to bump even in karting – and in Europe they are very strict about it. I dun know which European race you attended but I am aware that one driver was requested to start from the back after his bumping incident the heat before. The organisers told him on on the dummy grid for the next race! No letter, no bulletin, no annoucement. Why is it no policed here? Well,…. organising events is hard enough.
I think we all mean well – tho it could have been worded better, and if you are a parent – you will understand our sincerity.
If you are not and is merely a supporter/bystander/observer, you have no business in this thread cos we spoke with personal experience with the mentioned driver.
Just my 2 cents worth.
I am rather perplexed that I need to have certain capacity to post comments here in this thread. If that is so my question is what business has others got to post comments like mine and if, like me, none has the requisite capacity stay off and I will do likewise.
Anyway, on the same issue, my only concern is that a lot have been said which made TonyKart #5 look rather bad without actually knowing what actually happened. It may not have been deliberate on his part or he may have thought that a little bumping is acceptable. Whatever it may be as stated by alfagta on the “lots of hitting from the rear and the sides” in opening this thread such happenings are “normal racing incidents……”. At least that is what he said on the official’s thought and no one has said anything about it. Two wrong does not make one right but why pick on him.
We should together support the youth, in the development of their career in motorsport, if they so choose to, and guide them in their quest for success. If we, as fellow Malaysian, do not support but instead criticise who will.
like you Jules…my two cents worth.
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I refer to the name as most will know who is on Tonykart #5 and it doesnt take much to figure that out.KGKart,
Thanks for reply and I am still clueless if you are a concerned father or fan. I think it will draw a better light to the topics at hand.
You also took the words off my mouth – whilst everyone not concerned including you/me can voice their opinions in this forum ( but typically messing up the facts as like now ), the best persons to clarify and explain are those involved on this bumping issue.
I put my side of story on the driving off the track ‘little’ incident, as I relate from that experience that he is a very competitive driver. ( maybe a tad overdoing it but that’s my opinion ). Anyhow, I dun dare comment how bad was the bumping or tapping in the last race……cos I was not involved. Is kart no. 5 a member here? Pls post a reply.
Your noble intention of guiding our young Malaysian is good and this is why we are saying – bumping someone is not so recommended. If it sound like a critisism, perhaps a linguistic expert can word it better but the meaning’s the same. It also has nothing about being unpatriotic just because we are talking about a fellow Malaysian driver…..and cos the one involved is a Finnish dun change the opinons or facts for the issue at hand. No, I dun think I was out to also pick on him cos otherwise I would mention my own incident much much earlier.
From your reply, I can see that you think bumping is nothing wrong. ( tho I have given you a Marienbourg specific incident ) Please be mindful, there are many new & aspiring karters reading this and by virtue of your insistence of his innocence here – we are breeding many drivers who could think like you.
All it takes is just one guy to buy a nice race kart, go into a KBS race and take Kart No. 5 out( or me, or Mikko or anyone else ) by overzealous bumping and this is WHAT WE DUN WANT!
IN GENERAL, we all can have opinions, and can post in any forums, or verbally say it even but I think BEING RESPONSIBLE IN OUR OPINIONS & ACTIONS are vital.
I have said enough, so sorry for my ramblings. Guys, who know me – will understand my old age is catching up and I am a stickler to safety! LOL!
Safe karting.
[quote=KGkart]
Anyway, on the same issue, my only concern is that a lot have been said which made TonyKart #5 look rather bad without actually knowing what actually happened. It may not have been deliberate on his part or he may have thought that a little bumping is acceptable. [/quote]
Mind letting us know who you are?In round 1 he took me off with a very late move and got a 10 second (I think) penalty for it. After that he told me “You better watch out next time”…….. then last race he blatantly kept trying to run me off the track by intentionally crashing into me (I was going sideways tyres locked up into the chicane for about 3 laps because he was pushing from behind, even though he could’ve driven around either side).
If threatening by saying “you better watch out next time” and then bumping on purpose is considered fair game by you then you’re following the wrong sport.
I know exactly what happened, I was there. If I wanted to I could’ve had him penalized because a kks official came to tell me he saw it and told me that was too much… instead I just had a quiet word with the officials requesting them to pay more attention to the driver in question. imo the way he was driving could’ve justified a 1-year suspension of his license, and I’m not the only one that thinks so. If you feel different that’s ok, you’re entitled to your opinion.
Guys
Sorry if I appear irresponsible in my views but if double parking on a street is condoned on a daily basis does that not send a wrong signal.
As what you have said perhaps Tony Kart # 5 care to clarify and give his side of the story. You and me messing the facts hearing one side of the story does not help at all. What is wrong must be wrong but policing, imo, is also an important aspect of race organisation.
p/s and threatening behaviour is definately not acceptable
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