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Brudder Jules,
Agree that developing a made in Malaysia kart from scratch is not an easy feat. Manufacturing kart chassis is as much an ART as it is a science. Often the “art” bits are not fully understood.
Having said that, for rental karts and entry level karting purposes, it needs not be so high tech, or high art, especially if you are racing in a spec series. This is myKART’s core market: the entry level into karting / motorsports, and hence the demands would not be too high, except that it must be safe, robust and capable of similar experience. myKART would be very happy to be involved in the showcase events.
In relation to affordability, I think the aim to have it at around RM5k is reasonable – if the engines (eg. Modenas) and the chassis are locally made. The unusual tax structure we have in Malaysia does not necessary benefit importation of kart components.
Looking forward to the development of this MiM kart. Certainly, a couple of demonstration races by my-kart would be interesting.
Simon, me too!
Fazz, I think if the kart & chassis is local, yes the 5K figure could be reached but as my initial statements, there will be quite a few years ahead before we can do the local chassis properly.
In any case, I am all go for a MiM complete kart!
How did it go Jules? pretty sure that was you testing the Modenas kart with the redesigned exhaust system this afternoon? Compared to the Rotax 125 machine and any lap times for comparison.
Aiyah, guys – I spent 30 minutes last minute typing a full accoount of my test but when I submit……the MyKart web hung on me…:(
In short, the times are comparable to the Yamaha, 1 min 02sec and nowhere close to a Rotax which stands at 54-55 sec a lap.
BUT it’s very fun cos of the shifting and I dare say it takes a bit more physical & a lot more mental effort to drive it. Good fun anyway in my books.
Do ask BM5 for his veiwpoint too….since it’s his 1st experience on shifters. Naza, if u approached me that day – u will be writing this review-lah! Next time okie?
Cheers.
[quote=Jules]Aiyah, guys – I spent 30 minutes last minute typing a full accoount of my test but when I submit……the MyKart web hung on me…:(
In short, the times are comparable to the Yamaha, 1 min 02sec and nowhere close to a Rotax which stands at 54-55 sec a lap.
BUT it’s very fun cos of the shifting and I dare say it takes a bit more physical & a lot more mental effort to drive it. Good fun anyway in my books.
Do ask BM5 for his veiwpoint too….since it’s his 1st experience on shifters. Naza, if u approached me that day – u will be writing this review-lah! Next time okie?
Cheers.[/quote]
Well, I spent less than 6 laps on the kart…….I was having a lot of problem up-shifting although down-shifting was found to be easier. I got lost on the gears after the second lap & the kart stopped and I was searching for a gear in vain until Jules & the mechanic came to my rescue.
I can’t actually give an objective review of the kart b’cos of the above, except for the fact that the gear lever is hindering smooth steering movement, first thing that needed to be improved IMO.
I wan I wan……when is the next testing session? I am free on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Only Monday I am not free, and the track is closed too. What a coincidence!
OSF,
U went wake boarding-leh that day…..& cuci mata too I heard! Hope that dun dilute ur karting interest…hoi! U wanna test shifter….can, but TT on u! ke! ke!Jason,
So modest one-lah u……yes, point taken on the steering which I also mentioned. The lever was NOT STANDARD and was bent previously, hence it now interferes with steering. We tried to fixed that later in the day but not to my satisfaction yet.Will keep u all posted.
I tried the Modenas 115 cc kart today. was given the liberty to RIDE UNTIL I’M BORED OR IT BREAKS DOWN. unfortunately, it broke down. Seems like there are lots of problem. First and foremost, it’s damn slow, slower than the 125cc kart. For a shifter I mean. Well, there might be some power in and out of the corners (since it’s shifter) but no pickup power like the rotax max 125.
The engine has no cooling system, which was burning my right bum. Of course, when I’m riding all the way, pulling in the revs, who cares, you’d only feel the 3rd degree burn when you’re pitting in. 😛
Also, the engine mounting is too front. You can’t drive it normally. Your arms have to be in a weird sorta angle to avoid from getting burnt by the engine. Also, the whole components are unsupported, meaning, we’d be just putting an engine into a kart. It’s not feasable as lotsa problem will rise like burnt lining, wire, overheating, engine too big.
In the end, good for a Malaysia to set up own karting team, like K1 in MotoGP, but still, long way to go in being competitive and being acceptable by the Karting community.
Likewise, I thnk it’s a fun thing to drive. There’s a handclutch and of course, when you hear that in a McLaren we’d use a hand clutch, we’d suddenly feel like we’re Kimi or Montoya.
Long Live McLaren!
Long Dream Modenas![quote=JJxMan]I tried the Modenas 115 cc kart today. was…………….
Long Live McLaren!
Long Dream Modenas![/quote]I presume that the Modenas engine is a stock motorcycle engine and in that case will certainly not be able to match the Rotax 125. The Rotax is design for high revs (11,000 ++ rpm) which the Modenas is nowhere near, not even in the reliability area under racing conditions. That Modenas engine is bound to break relatively earlier unless modified and tuned heavily for racing. Well, I am all for the ‘trying to make it affordable’ effort but someone said “Speed costs Money”.
Long Live McLaren! (another one)
Long Face Modenas! (for now).JJxMan, ( Joey??)
Glad u tried it but being an experimental kart……sure things break off or down…so try to look from that point of view.
In regards to the heat and engine being in the way……it’s a bike aircooled engine so the the engine is bigger than normal cos of the air fins. we cannot push the engine back, cos then the head will be at your elbow. At present position ( & with all the ignition coil, fuel pump lowered ) it’s okay.
Honestly, I do not feel any heat at all – can even rest my hand on heat WHILE driving & shifting…..so relaxing. Of course, I wear a full suit for this, so no burn or heat problems…..& I say this from the 15 laps I did in one go.
It does not matter if water cool or not cos it’s for a function & not for looks also and more things you have, more maintenance and more things to break. The heat problem on your seat, can be solved locally.
Performance wise, a Rotax has 28hp, this one maybe 18-20hp at most. Rotax RM9000 now, this one, maybe we try to get at RM3000. Less 50% power but 66% cheaper…..!!! When I talk about spares for Rotax in comparision to Modenas, no need to talk further….get my drift?
Last of all, laptimes….the 4 lap demo I did revealed a 1min 02 sec lap. ( my mech…59 sec – he terror mah! ). My Rotax lap 54 sec…..yes, it’s not so fast but it’s not the lap times that matter most – it’s the fun while doing it and when we race this….everyone also the same & in the pack. By chance, how was your lap times?
In detail to your comment like burn lining, wire, overheating, engine too big – I can answer like this….they can be solved for the 1st 2 items, not true for overheating and engine too big? then u say no power if we use a 80cc…so how?
We have to be specific, objective driven & realistic, when we push a new idea….and not to forget give it development time & be persistent.
Hope MyKarts guys ride along this wave with me…..
[quote=JJxMan]I tried the Modenas 115 cc kart today. was given the liberty to RIDE UNTIL I’M BORED OR IT BREAKS DOWN. unfortunately, it broke down. Seems like there are lots of problem. First and foremost, it’s damn slow, slower than the 125cc kart. For a shifter I mean. Well, there might be some power in and out of the corners (since it’s shifter) but no pickup power like the rotax max 125.
The engine has no cooling system, which was burning my right bum. Of course, when I’m riding all the way, pulling in the revs, who cares, you’d only feel the 3rd degree burn when you’re pitting in. 😛
Also, the engine mounting is too front. You can’t drive it normally. Your arms have to be in a weird sorta angle to avoid from getting burnt by the engine. Also, the whole components are unsupported, meaning, we’d be just putting an engine into a kart. It’s not feasable as lotsa problem will rise like burnt lining, wire, overheating, engine too big.
In the end, good for a Malaysia to set up own karting team, like K1 in MotoGP, but still, long way to go in being competitive and being acceptable by the Karting community.
Likewise, I thnk it’s a fun thing to drive. There’s a handclutch and of course, when you hear that in a McLaren we’d use a hand clutch, we’d suddenly feel like we’re Kimi or Montoya.
Long Live McLaren!
Long Dream Modenas![/quote]**argh!!!
I realised that I had accidently deleted a few posts as I attempted to delete the double post by Jules.
For those whose post I had inadvertantly deleted… I apologise!
🙁
Sorry bro for the double posting….did recall I had some problems on one occassion.
Anyway, forgot to add…..I hit 11000+rpm with the Modenas….OUCH!
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