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[quote=luen]Team, please fix a price. Thanks[/quote]
I am ok with 600 per team / 4 drivers = 150 per driver which will include trophies, medals and light refeshments.
Umbrella ladies are NOT included for now (Auntie, how?)
ok RM150 per driver + throphies + refreshments + W&J????
I will reconfirm once acquired confirmation from CK of date and Time
Guess we can start posting the on the general forum for early bird package, Naza??
[quote=luen]ok RM150 per driver + throphies + refreshments + W&J????
I will reconfirm once acquired confirmation from CK of date and Time
Guess we can start posting the on the general forum for early bird package, Naza??
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W&J => assuming we are running about 10 teams, the it should be an extra RM60 (ish) per team, ie RM15 per driver…u want or not?? cheap cheap, they love you long time!…:)
[quote=naza][quote=luen]Team, please fix a price. Thanks[/quote]
I am ok with 600 per team / 4 drivers = 150 per driver which will include trophies, medals and light refeshments.
Umbrella ladies are NOT included for now (Auntie, how?)
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i am ok with this. let’s do this and get some goodies.
[quote=luen]ok RM150 per driver + throphies + refreshments + W&J????
I will reconfirm once acquired confirmation from CK of date and Time
Guess we can start posting the on the general forum for early bird package, Naza??
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Yeah!, do an early bird package by giving RM40 off to the TEAM if they register before 30th October 2007. To give enough preparation time for CK , close all registration on 23rd November 2007.
Can we agree with the above proposal?
Luen,
Some of my thoughts with regards to Rules and Race Format:1. If a team is not satisfied with their kart, allow the change AFTER the Qualifying session has ended. In addition, the team will lose some positions (decision?) as penalty.
2. Allow kart change, subject to availability only if it cannot move due to its own fault. However, no kart change will be allowed if the kart cannot move due to accidents irrespective of who is at fault.
3. What about total driver weights?…..shall a minimum weight rule be adopted?
[quote=naza]1. If a team is not satisfied with their kart, allow the change AFTER the Qualifying session has ended. In addition, the team will lose some positions (decision?) as penalty.
2. Allow kart change, subject to availability only if it cannot move due to its own fault. However, no kart change will be allowed if the kart cannot move due to accidents irrespective of who is at fault.
3. What about total driver weights?…..shall a minimum weight rule be adopted?[/quote]
yes to change & penalty etc. also agree on weights. yes to early bird too.
Format:
Requirement
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-4 drivers to a team
-minimum required total weight for team is 280kg
-Decent 2 qualified grid positions of every 3kg below minimum weight requirement.20 minutes qualifying round
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-all drivers must participate, taking average all 4 fastest lap time by each driver, deciding on grid position
-absence of any of the team driver in qualifying will be starting at the back of the grid
-in incident of kart failure during qualifying round and unable to clock time, the team my resume to race by starting at the end of grid position with spare kart
-Pit will open throughout entire qualifying session and no restriction to each driver maximum track time
-The team is allowed to change kart ONLY if kart failure during qualifying
-The team is allowed to change kart after qualifying round with reason of incompetence of current kart. The team will decent 50 percent of its qualified grid position.The race
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-100 minutes unlimited pit stop
– All team member compulsory clock minimum 25 and maximum 35 minutes of track time. Every 3 minutes excess of total team and or individual driving time will minus 1 lap at end result
-in incident of kart failure, driver will have to get spare kart back at pit/control area that is subjected to spare kart availability
-in incident lost of transponder due to accident, the team will be disqualified as no lap time taken
-Petrol refuel at no compulsary pit time limitplease comment
[quote=luen]Format:
20 minutes qualifying round
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-The team is allowed to change kart after qualifying round with reason of incompatibility of current kart. The team will decent 50 percent of its qualified grid position.[/quote]“Incompatibility” here means?…..very poor kart performance to be decided solely by race director / organiser? (The organiser’s decision is final)
[quote=luen]
The race
===============– All team member compulsory clock minimum 25 and maximum 35 minutes of track time. Every 3 minutes excess of total team and or individual driving time will minus 1 lap at end result
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Every 3 mins excess of total team?….theoretically not possible as race will end at 100 minutes.More important is how do we monitor each driver of every team not to exceed 35 mins. Some sort of system is needed, maybe discuss later.
Yeah Naza you are right. It will not exceed 100 minutes in total time
I think we should set min 20 and max 35 of individual driving time, penalty on 3 minutes exceed and or below. Sum of track time of individual driver may be multiple pit stops since it is unlimitted pitstop race. Example below shows detail ;
example of individual driver exceed and below 3 minutes buffer for both driver1 and driver 4
driver 1 40 minutes –> pit1 15 minutes —> pit2 15 minutes —> pit3 10 minutes
driver 2 25 minutes –> pit1 15 minutes —-> pit 2 10 minites
driver 3 19 minutes –> pit 1 19 minutes
driver 4 16 minutes —> pit1 16 minutes
total pit time for this team is 7example of 3 minutes buffered to individual
driver 1 38 minutes
driver 2 22 minutes
driver 3 22 minutes
driver 4 18 minutesControl system
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there will be a docket or piece of card board given to each team, driver that comes back from track will need to take this card for timestamp at control booth with official signature.Sum up time stamps will be the total time on track, this method will be useful during the race. During qualifying, driver would just need to report him/herself at control booth after each run.
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20 minutes qualifying round
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-The team is allowed to change kart after qualifying round with reason of incompatibility of current kart. The team will decent 50 percent of its qualified grid position.[/quote]“Incompatibility” here means?…..very poor kart performance to be decided solely by race director / organiser? (The organiser’s decision is final)[/quote]
Errr may be should use the word incompetence instead. yes subjec to kart availability and final decision by race admin
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neat, balance and practical[quote=naza]
[quote=luen]
The race
===============– All team member compulsory clock minimum 25 and maximum 35 minutes of track time. Every 3 minutes excess of total team and or individual driving time will minus 1 lap at end result
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Every 3 mins excess of total team?….theoretically not possible as race will end at 100 minutes.More important is how do we monitor each driver of every team not to exceed 35 mins. Some sort of system is needed, maybe discuss later.[/quote]
monitoring driver stint times is a little difficult i thought. any objections to pre-determined driver change windows – like what we did for the old mega-enduro races? that way we can check teams that change driver and avoid any teams having their fastest (and lightest) driver drive the majority of the laps.
thoughts?
[quote=luen]Requirement
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-4 drivers to a team
-minimum required total weight for team is 280kg
-Decent 2 qualified grid positions of every 3kg below minimum weight requirement.
[/quote]Correct me if I’m wrong, I believe the total minimum weight for all male drivers team is 270kg in our old mega-endurance race.
Deduct 10kg for every female driver.
[quote=Nohad][quote=luen]Requirement
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-4 drivers to a team
-minimum required total weight for team is 280kg
-Decent 2 qualified grid positions of every 3kg below minimum weight requirement.
[/quote]Correct me if I’m wrong, I believe the total minimum weight for all male drivers team is 270kg in our old mega-endurance race.
Deduct 10kg for every female driver.
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previous race does not include qualifying round. Qualified standings already decided and proved of weight over speed matter. This also avoid of unwanted heavy-weight drivers. But I agreed deduct some total weight if having female driver onboard, but not 10 kg
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neat, balance and practical
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