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6 November 2007 at 6:50 am #6058
luen
Participantyes reduce original 20 minutes to 5 for kart preparation, incase they need to change kart like seat fitting issue and etc etc
6 November 2007 at 7:57 am #6059naza
ParticipantLuen, Folks,
heee heee heee!, take a look at this:
14. VM Motorsport
1. Nizam Rahman (nizer)| 51Kg (with racing gear)
2. Nazri Ng | 58Kg (with racing gear)
3. Jamizan Jamaludin | 60Kg (with racing gear)
4. Suhazlan | 58Kg (with racing gear)
Total weight : 227kgYou think they care if they start a mile behind?….hee hee hee!
6 November 2007 at 9:40 am #6065luen
Participant*bangsan*
this exactly what is worried.
By the way Naza and gang, thorough consider it we should leave 10 minutes for practice and preparation before the race.
There might newbies in the team that not so familiar with counter clockwise. Safety comes first la….
Ok contacted bombee for refereshment catering, quotation will be out soon, AJK makan Azlan you may want to scrutinize the menu???!!! haha
8 November 2007 at 12:35 pm #6082naza
ParticipantFolks,
Lightest team = 227kg, Heaviest team = 289kg, difference = 62 kg…! I gather that its about 1.3 seconds for every 10kg per lap. That works out to 8 secs / lap faster for the 227kg team over the 289kg team.
we need to reexamine the present 6kg + time penalty method whether its effective…..as we discussed this afternoon at during the chicken wings session.
Suggestions:
Introduce a two category race, one for heavy teams (weight to be determine) and the other for Lighter teams (weight to be determine).…Guys, we need to get an alternative solution quick….3 weeks to go.
11 November 2007 at 3:58 pm #6100naza
ParticipantLuen,
As discussed, we are now leaning towards using solely ballast instead of the 6kg + penalty system. We also toyed with this idea since last week (Fazz was there) and this wet afternoon hours ago…….cheh! missed the CRG testing!Right now we have 15 teams on the thread :
Assumption : 280 kg – MINIMUM total weight
Ladies : No weight handicap allowed.
0. Team Name|Drivers wt.x4|add ballast|
1. TeleVas I|286 kg|add:nil kg|
2. TeleVas II|292 kg|add:nil kg|
3. Dances wth Crocs|280| add: nil kg|
4. Supercross Inc.|281 kg|add: nil kg|
5. Hiroko-San|289 kg|add: nil kg|
6. Aliens |268 kg |add: 3kg|
7. Tail Happy|276 kg|add : 1 kg|
8. Matrix|267 kg| add: 3 kg |
9. Satria Neo I| 256 kg|add : 6 kg|
10. Satria Neo II|259 kg|add : 6 kg|
11. Furtive|252 kg|add: 7 kg|
12. VM Motorsport|227 kg|add: 13 kg|
13. Vertical Speed|256 kg|add: 6 kg|
14. Heritage|254 kg| add: 7 kg|
15. 360 Deg|279kg|add 1 kg|Total ballast needed = 18 x 3 kg = 54 kg
Note A: CK ballast are in 3kg configurations. So, minmum ballast added will be 3 kg.
Note B: In the event, that there is insufficient ballast weights, we can drop the minimum weight requirement to say 270 kg so that a few more teams will not require ballast.
Note C: Since transponders are use, we can us the 10 or 15 minutes to test and qualify for grid postions at the same time?
12 November 2007 at 2:26 am #6101Nohad
Participant[quote=naza]Luen,
As discussed, we are now leaning towards using solely ballast instead of the 6kg + penalty system.12. VM Motorsport|227 kg|add: 13 kg|
[/quote]Give them kart no.16 😉
Luen,what was the kart number u used yesterday?These karts should suit lightweight drivers becos it lacks top-end & poor low-end (for heavy drivers) which should even up the disadvantages. 😛
Basically,using ballast should suffice.
12 November 2007 at 2:29 am #6102luen
Participantnumber 3. I dun think that is the proper way 😀 that is cruel 😀 😀 😀
13 November 2007 at 3:57 am #6116naza
ParticipantAh Luen!,
Need confirmation on Qualifying Procedure:
Q1 : Each team is free to decide which driver or drivers will drive in the qualifying session, ie, no restriction on number of drivers for qualifying.
Q2 : If the team have more than one driver in the qualifying session, the quickest lap time is taken?
13 November 2007 at 4:16 am #6117luen
ParticipantA1: yes sir
A2: yes sir14 November 2007 at 12:44 am #6122naza
ParticipantFolks,
We need a reliable weighing scale…does my-kart have one now?14 November 2007 at 7:15 am #6126TheFazz
Member[quote=naza]Folks,
We need a reliable weighing scale…does my-kart have one now?[/quote]wouldn’t the CK weighing scale suffice?
14 November 2007 at 12:30 pm #6129naza
Participant[quote=TheFazz][quote=naza]Folks,
We need a reliable weighing scale…does my-kart have one now?[/quote]wouldn’t the CK weighing scale suffice?[/quote]
…you mean the big timbang kati one used to weigh driver and kart for the K1 races before? I was thinking of a small one just to weigh drivers with their gear.
14 November 2007 at 3:43 pm #6130TheFazz
Member[quote=naza]…you mean the big timbang kati one used to weigh driver and kart for the K1 races before? I was thinking of a small one just to weigh drivers with their gear.[/quote]
oh. mine broke already. ;(
19 November 2007 at 2:24 pm #6171naza
ParticipantLuen,
Ballast : It appears that we have enough weight ballasts after I ‘ve checked with AB.
Fallback plan: Lower the minimum weight rule from 70kg to say 67kg but this can only be finalised after drivers registration and weighing is done.
Secondly, we need to inform drivers to come early for reg. and weighing procedures. Maybe the following schedule can be posted:
0830 – Registration (+ weighing)
0900 – Drivers Briefing
0930 – Kart Balloting
0940 – Ballast & Transponder installation
1000 – Practice & Qualifying start – 10 mins.
1015 – Final kart adjustments
1030 – Grid and StartPlease amend where required.
20 November 2007 at 4:15 am #6175luen
ParticipantThanks NAZA, I have adjusted some of the timing.
Pre-Race
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0730 – preparation for karts ensuring sufficient no of karts and spares
0745 – Basic setup checking (brakes and throtl.) + Transponder installation0730 – Registration (+ weighing)
0915 – Drivers Briefing
0930 – Kart Balloting, Ballast
1000 – Practice & Qualifying start – 10 mins.
1015 – Final kart adjustments and grid arrangement
1020 – Grid and StartRace
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pit1 window 1040 ~ 1050
pit2 window 1110 ~ 1120
pit3 window 1140Post-race
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1220 Lunch
1230 Prize giving
1300 EOERace Event
==========3 marshals needed. Needed 1 each at pit Entry, Exit and Admin table.
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Marshal at entry logs kart number whenever a kart pits, sames goes to exit marshal logs
kart number whenever kart exit. Drivers must sign at Race admin table.
At the end of the race, marshals at admin, entry and exit must have same frequency
of appearence of a kart in combine of all 3.I will forward log forms in xls format to individual email account later this evening.
Role and designation of marshals.
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The appointed personnel may delegate works to submembers. However, the appointed personnel will
have full accountable of the role.Nominatel lead marshals for;
Race admin marshal Naza
Pit marshal Luen and Zul -
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