Questions regarding 80CC Kart

[timmsm]

Questions 1 and 2 – Mikko Nassi has written a complete guide to the Shah Alam track which tells you everything about braking, accelerating, cornering, steering etc. Take a look at http://morris-racing.com/kartingmalaysia/shah-alam-karting-track-driving-guide.php

Question 3 – Jeans are acceptable, however I would always recommend you to protect yourself with as much protective apparel as possible. If you have gloves, I strongly recommend you use them and make sure you wear sensible footwear and not slippers!

Question 4 – Refer to http://morris-racing.com/kartingmalaysia/driving_tips1.php

Hope this helps you. Have fun in your event and remember to put SAFETY at the forefront of your mind at all times.

[desvaro]

timmsm thank you very much for your input…although I am still curious about one thing, does trail braking works with the 80cc kart? Or is there a better way?

[Jules]

Des,

I think you are not a newbie as I recall ur name from somewhere before.

Anyhow, on 80cc you dun trail brake since the speeds are too slow. From my memory, you probably brake in a few locations on this track…..

If the kart set-up is correct, you also dun need to brake but then dun quote me.

Have fun.

[Nohad]

[quote=desvaro]1) they say that trail braking is THE BEST way to brake,
[/quote]

Shy to ask this, what is trail braking? :shy: 😕

Braking point on 80cc kart at CK? uhhh, brakes? never used them! 😉 Maybe I’m too slow to use them. 😛

As Jules mentioned, you rarely use the brakes on a good setup 80cc kart unless the kart is exceptionaly fast for it’s class.

The brakes are mostly used during attacking or defending only.

As far as I can recall, there are only 2 braking points at CK circuit.

[b]Clockwise direction[/b]
1) Turn 1 at the start/finish straight (only light dab of braking is required)
2) Turn 10 hairpin after the parabolic

Just my 200 Vietnam Dong worth of opinion

[siangwei]

yeah… i also wonder the term trail braking… 😕

so you are not alone in the confuse 🙂

[timmsm]

Just Googled it and got this…

Trail braking is a motorcycle riding and driving technique where the brakes are used beyond the entrance to a turn and are gradually released up to the point of apex.

In applying this technique, motorcycle riders approach turns applying both front and rear brakes to reduce speed. As they enter the turn, they partially release the brakes, as to keep only partial brakes throughout the turn. This will give more traction as the front tire is forced into the pavement.

This technique is commonly used when racing, but can enhance control and add more evasive options for street riders making it very worthwhile to learn or at least understand. Be aware that excessive trail braking can result in a loss of grip as the tire’s adhesion is split between braking and cornering forces. It will also noticeably affect the motorcycle behaviour (as in handling).

[imanMS]

then would it apply to our the 80cc kart? IMHO dun think so…

[desvaro]

Let me just clear up some things, trail braking when applied to go kart is this:

http://karting1.co.uk/braking-karting.htm

Give it a good read, based on what you guys have said I guess it only works on karts with high speeds.

So let me get this straight, on an 80CC kart on City Karting, I almost don’t have to brake at all except at those 2 points mentioned? But does this still mean that there are times where I should be lifting my foot off the throttle a little?

Also I would like to ask this, for the 80CC karts do driving line matter? Since there is almost no braking to be done I would assume that how you turn into corners are not that important? Or is the racing line still very critical?

Btw is turn 10 the almost 180 degree right hand turn?

Thanks to all of those who have helped out, I really appreciate it

[Nohad]

[quote=desvaro]I almost don’t have to brake at all except at those 2 points mentioned?[/quote]
Depending on your speed of entry and kart handling.

[quote=desvaro]But does this still mean that there are times where I should be lifting my foot off the throttle a little?
[/quote]
Bingo

[quote=desvaro]Also I would like to ask this, for the 80CC karts do driving line matter? Or is the racing line still very critical?
[/quote]
Oh yes! Or you will be running onto the kerbs or the grass.

[quote=desvaro]Btw is turn 10 the almost 180 degree right hand turn?
[/quote]
That’s the corner I’m referring to.

I’m not sure if that turn is called turn 10 or turn 11. Turn 10 if the right kink on the long straight is not taken into account.

[desvaro]

Nohad is this the same turn 10 as the one in the pic below:

http://morris-racing.com/kartingmalaysia/images/trackguides/shah_alam_track_guide_big.gif

Once again thanks to all who have contributed

[Nohad]

As per the sketch, it is turn 7

[desvaro]

Thanks Nohad, I assume Turn 1 is the same ya?

[naza]

[quote=Nohad]
I’m not sure if that turn is called turn 10 or turn 11. Turn 10 if the right kink on the long straight is not taken into account.

[/quote]
Mikko marked it as T10 (right kink is not worth calling a cornor apparently) and this is assuming you run clockwise starting on the straight smack in front of the watch tower.

[Nohad]

[quote=desvaro]Thanks Nohad, I assume Turn 1 is the same ya?[/quote]

NO, it is marked as T10 in the sketch.

Bear in mind that the present start/finish line is between T9 & T10 (as per the sketch).

[desvaro]

Ah thanks Nohad, so I assume the current course would start from T9-T10 and proceed to T11 T12 etc etc as per the sketch?

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