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9 May 2007 at 2:42 am #4807
Nohad
Participant[quote=desvaro]Ah thanks Nohad, so I assume the current course would start from T9-T10 and proceed to T11 T12 etc etc as per the sketch?[/quote]
Bingo
9 May 2007 at 3:32 am #4809Jules
Participant[quote=desvaro]
Also I would like to ask this, for the 80CC karts do driving line matter? Since there is almost no braking to be done I would assume that how you turn into corners are not that important? Or is the racing line still very critical?[/quote]Racing line is EVERYTHING on any type of karts…oh boy, I see you have mighty lot to learn but the My-Kart ppl will be patient with you.
Trail braking? Come to HPC and we can teach u this….but then we are talking about cars.
Btw, please see Mikko’s diagram as a guide cos it sure is not valid for a 80cc….or even my driving style on the 125cc ( at least some corners )
9 May 2007 at 3:52 am #4810luen
ParticipantHi Jules, got time this Saturday for a lesson or two ? Thanks
9 May 2007 at 4:13 am #4811sabelt
ParticipantBy telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart.
9 May 2007 at 4:46 am #4813Nohad
Participant[quote=sabelt]you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]
That’s becos u r always faster than me on 80cc kart bro 🙁 ;( .
But on [b]counter-clockwise[/b] direction, you will definitely need brakes for the right hair-pin turn (2nd turn after the start/finish straight)& the left hair-pin turn (after the long straights).
9 May 2007 at 6:40 am #4815Jules
Participant[quote=sabelt]By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]
The steering wheel is the brake……understand this and you know how to go faster…
9 May 2007 at 6:45 am #4814desvaro
ParticipantJules, that is indeed Mikko’s guide, or have I missed something? Could you then guide me to the correct one?
Thanks to all those who have helped out so far
Well I think that if there is really no need to brake, then why should you? But that is a valid point (you wont be able to learn proper racing fundamentals), but perhaps you can learn those when you go up to a higher kart?
9 May 2007 at 9:26 am #4818sabelt
Participant[quote=Jules][quote=sabelt]By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]
The steering wheel is the brake……understand this and you know how to go faster…
[/quote]Steering wheel is the brake? As far as i concern, real race drivers out there uses more power on throttle than steering input. Different people different technique.
Des : You could seek jules for coaching. He’s super quick and pro.
10 May 2007 at 1:56 pm #4825OSFlanker
Participant[quote=Jules][quote=sabelt]By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]
The steering wheel is the brake……understand this and you know how to go faster…
[/quote]Jules has his “Zen” technique for 80cc kart 😉
For beginners, I would suggest concentrate on the basics first : brake in a straight line, apex, racing line, steering and throttle control, then only try out “Zen” techniques!
Personally, the lap in which I felt I have driven the slowest always turn out to have the best lap time. Slow in, fast out and be smooth. You will feel slow but your lap times will show otherwise.
10 May 2007 at 3:05 pm #4826luen
Participant[quote=OSFlanker]
Personally, the lap in which I felt I have driven the slowest always turn out to have the best lap time. Slow in, fast out and be smooth. You will feel slow but your lap times will show otherwise.[/quote]
“I look slow but I am actually fast”
haha ring a bell———————————-
neat, balance and practical21 May 2007 at 10:30 am #4843des_k
Participanti tend to agree with Sabelt, i use brakes on the 80cc as well. not using brakes sounds cool. but i do use the brakes..
Trail Braking,
Here a simple explanation for trail braking, Generally, trail braking means that a driver brakes at the braking point and ease off the brake pressure while turining into the apex . This allows the driver to late brake without wanting to lock up their brakes. so he generally drags his braking point till the turn in point while easing off on the brake pressure to allow grip for the veichle to turn into the apex and exit.My two cents worth .
31 May 2007 at 4:24 pm #4891willy
ParticipantDuring the A1TM event, my team suffered with a seriously oversteer kart. Well the speed is there on straight but no matter how slow try to take corner, the kart just run wide and if we steer more….we end up spinning like top!! Any idea how to tackle this? Also…A1TM did 1:11.449s (CW) anyone notice how they did that?
1 June 2007 at 1:59 am #4892saa73
Participant[quote=willy]During the A1TM event, my team suffered with a seriously oversteer kart. Well the speed is there on straight but no matter how slow try to take corner, the kart just run wide and if we steer more….we end up spinning like top!! Any idea how to tackle this? Also…A1TM did 1:11.449s (CW) anyone notice how they did that? [/quote] 1:11.449s was achieved by smooth driving by our smooth young man Jazeman! He can teach us “old dogs” a trick or two …hmm…maybe he can conduct a short clinic next time (I certainly need some expert help!) .. 🙂
1 June 2007 at 4:05 am #4893imanMS
Participant[quote=saa73][quote=willy]During the A1TM event, my team suffered with a seriously oversteer kart. Well the speed is there on straight but no matter how slow try to take corner, the kart just run wide and if we steer more….we end up spinning like top!! Any idea how to tackle this? Also…A1TM did 1:11.449s (CW) anyone notice how they did that? [/quote] 1:11.449s was achieved by smooth driving by our smooth young man Jazeman! He can teach us “old dogs” a trick or two …hmm…maybe he can conduct a short clinic next time (I certainly need some expert help!) .. 🙂
[/quote]ran on a 80cc? the kart jazeman used was balloted i assume?
1 June 2007 at 4:09 am #4894OSFlanker
Participant[quote=saa73]1:11.449s was achieved by smooth driving by our smooth young man Jazeman! He can teach us “old dogs” a trick or two …hmm…maybe he can conduct a short clinic next time (I certainly need some expert help!) .. 🙂
[/quote]It helps that Jazeman is only 14, so his weight should be around 40-50kg? Don’t forget he must have done at least 3,000 laps round the City Karting track.
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