Questions regarding 80CC Kart

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  • #4807
    Nohad
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    [quote=desvaro]Ah thanks Nohad, so I assume the current course would start from T9-T10 and proceed to T11 T12 etc etc as per the sketch?[/quote]

    Bingo

    #4809
    Jules
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    [quote=desvaro]
    Also I would like to ask this, for the 80CC karts do driving line matter? Since there is almost no braking to be done I would assume that how you turn into corners are not that important? Or is the racing line still very critical?[/quote]

    Racing line is EVERYTHING on any type of karts…oh boy, I see you have mighty lot to learn but the My-Kart ppl will be patient with you.

    Trail braking? Come to HPC and we can teach u this….but then we are talking about cars.

    Btw, please see Mikko’s diagram as a guide cos it sure is not valid for a 80cc….or even my driving style on the 125cc ( at least some corners )

    #4810
    luen
    Participant

    Hi Jules, got time this Saturday for a lesson or two ? Thanks

    #4811
    sabelt
    Participant

    By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart.

    #4813
    Nohad
    Participant

    [quote=sabelt]you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]

    That’s becos u r always faster than me on 80cc kart bro 🙁 ;( .

    But on [b]counter-clockwise[/b] direction, you will definitely need brakes for the right hair-pin turn (2nd turn after the start/finish straight)& the left hair-pin turn (after the long straights).

    #4815
    Jules
    Participant

    [quote=sabelt]By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]

    The steering wheel is the brake……understand this and you know how to go faster…

    #4814
    desvaro
    Participant

    Jules, that is indeed Mikko’s guide, or have I missed something? Could you then guide me to the correct one?

    Thanks to all those who have helped out so far

    Well I think that if there is really no need to brake, then why should you? But that is a valid point (you wont be able to learn proper racing fundamentals), but perhaps you can learn those when you go up to a higher kart?

    #4818
    sabelt
    Participant

    [quote=Jules][quote=sabelt]By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]

    The steering wheel is the brake……understand this and you know how to go faster…
    [/quote]

    Steering wheel is the brake? As far as i concern, real race drivers out there uses more power on throttle than steering input. Different people different technique.

    Des : You could seek jules for coaching. He’s super quick and pro.

    #4825
    OSFlanker
    Participant

    [quote=Jules][quote=sabelt]By telling other people you dont brake in a kart maybe cool but you’ll never learn basic racing technique fundamentals. Call me slow and not matter what, I would still brake in a 80cc kart. [/quote]

    The steering wheel is the brake……understand this and you know how to go faster…
    [/quote]

    Jules has his “Zen” technique for 80cc kart 😉

    For beginners, I would suggest concentrate on the basics first : brake in a straight line, apex, racing line, steering and throttle control, then only try out “Zen” techniques!

    Personally, the lap in which I felt I have driven the slowest always turn out to have the best lap time. Slow in, fast out and be smooth. You will feel slow but your lap times will show otherwise.

    #4826
    luen
    Participant

    [quote=OSFlanker]

    Personally, the lap in which I felt I have driven the slowest always turn out to have the best lap time. Slow in, fast out and be smooth. You will feel slow but your lap times will show otherwise.[/quote]

    “I look slow but I am actually fast”
    haha ring a bell

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    neat, balance and practical

    #4843
    des_k
    Participant

    i tend to agree with Sabelt, i use brakes on the 80cc as well. not using brakes sounds cool. but i do use the brakes..

    Trail Braking,
    Here a simple explanation for trail braking, Generally, trail braking means that a driver brakes at the braking point and ease off the brake pressure while turining into the apex . This allows the driver to late brake without wanting to lock up their brakes. so he generally drags his braking point till the turn in point while easing off on the brake pressure to allow grip for the veichle to turn into the apex and exit.

    My two cents worth .

    #4891
    willy
    Participant

    During the A1TM event, my team suffered with a seriously oversteer kart. Well the speed is there on straight but no matter how slow try to take corner, the kart just run wide and if we steer more….we end up spinning like top!! Any idea how to tackle this? Also…A1TM did 1:11.449s (CW) anyone notice how they did that?

    #4892
    saa73
    Participant

    [quote=willy]During the A1TM event, my team suffered with a seriously oversteer kart. Well the speed is there on straight but no matter how slow try to take corner, the kart just run wide and if we steer more….we end up spinning like top!! Any idea how to tackle this? Also…A1TM did 1:11.449s (CW) anyone notice how they did that? [/quote] 1:11.449s was achieved by smooth driving by our smooth young man Jazeman! He can teach us “old dogs” a trick or two …hmm…maybe he can conduct a short clinic next time (I certainly need some expert help!) .. 🙂

    #4893
    imanMS
    Participant

    [quote=saa73][quote=willy]During the A1TM event, my team suffered with a seriously oversteer kart. Well the speed is there on straight but no matter how slow try to take corner, the kart just run wide and if we steer more….we end up spinning like top!! Any idea how to tackle this? Also…A1TM did 1:11.449s (CW) anyone notice how they did that? [/quote] 1:11.449s was achieved by smooth driving by our smooth young man Jazeman! He can teach us “old dogs” a trick or two …hmm…maybe he can conduct a short clinic next time (I certainly need some expert help!) .. 🙂
    [/quote]

    ran on a 80cc? the kart jazeman used was balloted i assume?

    #4894
    OSFlanker
    Participant

    [quote=saa73]1:11.449s was achieved by smooth driving by our smooth young man Jazeman! He can teach us “old dogs” a trick or two …hmm…maybe he can conduct a short clinic next time (I certainly need some expert help!) .. 🙂
    [/quote]

    It helps that Jazeman is only 14, so his weight should be around 40-50kg? Don’t forget he must have done at least 3,000 laps round the City Karting track.

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