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[quote=sabelt]Hi guys need some help here as where i can find a good place in KL (do not include pertama complex) to custom design, spray and airbrush my own helmet?
Preferrable with address and location. Would be appreciate if someone could provide details and info about it. Thank you. [/quote]
I am also looking for such a place. Went to this shop in Sunway which faces Sunway College, behind N1 Racing. Think the name is BK Yap. Was quoted RM300-RM600, depending on design.
Will try to fish out the namecard, but it’s not hard to find. Go there to drop off your helmet, and walk to a nearby cafe where a lot of collegians hang out…….
[quote=OSFlanker][quote=sabelt]Hi guys need some help here as where i can find a good place in KL (do not include pertama complex) to custom design, spray and airbrush my own helmet?
Preferrable with address and location. Would be appreciate if someone could provide details and info about it. Thank you. [/quote]
I am also looking for such a place. Went to this shop in Sunway which faces Sunway College, behind N1 Racing. Think the name is BK Yap. Was quoted RM300-RM600, depending on design.
Will try to fish out the namecard, but it’s not hard to find. Go there to drop off your helmet, and walk to a nearby cafe where a lot of collegians hang out…….
[/quote]Appreciate your reply bro. Have you send your helmet to them? Hows the workmanship? What kind of shop is this? Well sunway area should be allright for me then. Collegians? Heheh used to hangout there last time.
[quote=sabelt]Hi guys need some help here as where i can find a good place in KL (do not include pertama complex) to custom design, spray and airbrush my own helmet?
Preferrable with address and location. Would be appreciate if someone could provide details and info about it. Thank you. [/quote]
I did thought of buying a white helmet and airbrush the helmet but I was told that the paint will spoil the helmet and therefore put a HOLD on my plan. Any feedback on this matter?
There was an article about airbrushing about a week ago on the papers but I couldn’t remember whether it was in STAR or NST.
theres one shop in sunway….around the mod shops…ill try to get the detail..they were at the kl motorshow recently…
[quote=Nohad][quote=sabelt]Hi guys need some help here as where i can find a good place in KL (do not include pertama complex) to custom design, spray and airbrush my own helmet?
Preferrable with address and location. Would be appreciate if someone could provide details and info about it. Thank you. [/quote]
I did thought of buying a white helmet and airbrush the helmet but I was told that the paint will spoil the helmet and therefore put a HOLD on my plan. Any feedback on this matter?
There was an article about airbrushing about a week ago on the papers but I couldn’t remember whether it was in STAR or NST.
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Yup. The painter must know and follow the guidelines provided by FIA chapter 3 rule 1.4(check link below). You think these people would aware of it?
http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/1797101136__Appendix_L_a.pdf
[quote=sabelt]Yup. The painter must know and follow the guidelines provided by FIA chapter 3 rule 1.4(check link below). You think these people would aware of it?
http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/1797101136__Appendix_L_a.pdf
[/quote]I think your helmet specs & materials must be compliant first. You should check with the pro shops when buying your helmet.
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Yup. The painter must know and follow the guidelines provided by FIA chapter 3 rule 1.4(check link below). You think these people would aware of it?
http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/1797101136__Appendix_L_a.pdf
[/quote]None of the paint shops I visited have any idea what is the effect of air brushing helmets let alone what Chapter 3 says. To make it worse, the manufacturer did warn of negative effects on the outer shell layer if we use the wrong painting procedure (what procedure?). I guess there are certain steps to be taken before applying any paint on the shell. Gotta do some more study……aiyaaah!
In fact, if you look closely, quite a few drivers just use self adhesive stickers, custom designed, but its not as smooth as air brushing…..tak cun!
Maybe someone can ask the AIGP Malaysia fellas or even Alex Yoong himself or Seb Loeb or…..
Thanks for the pointers guys. Darn, now i have to think twice doing it. I didnt know there would be negative side on it. Luckily i did check on thru the FIA site before sending my ‘soon to have’ helmet to the painters.
So tempting la their graphic design esp. the touring and formula racers that i saw. Well, i have this feeling that none of these guys are aware of these chapter 3 FIA rule. Better safe than sorry. On hold lagi! I really need this compliant helmet for kart and circuit racing purposes. 🙂
guys….
our local racers mainly patronise the service of 2 places….one fella has a run down shop lot along Sg Besi Road ( close to old MTC office, opposite MRZ ) and the other, the more famous Taymen….http://www.taymenairbrushing.com/
The latter is not cheap but does a professional job. Yes, cost RM1500 upwards. Think Alex does it with him.
A fellow racer says in Indonesia – you pay half the price for helmet painting…..
The ultimate is LUCKY DESIGN….based in Italy, I think and u do a google and see quality. Price, dun ask… and F1 drivers are his clients.
Naturally, all pricing is subject to your design but the bottom line is more air brushing, more expensive and exotic paints ( ie, chrome, gold ) more money as well….
In regards to safety, yes the thinner base paints affects the strength of the shell. Do the painters follow that? You ask him-lor.
You guys going racing seriously I guess…..but keep me posted, I may just paint up my helmet if price is rite.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I’ve put aside my decision at the moment. Safety comes first. Now, we move onto safety issue. Want to know more about SNELL? Let see how important of having a good quality helmet.
Article below taken from other website.
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Have You Ever Wondered, What’s a Snell Rating? So you re in line for tech inspection and someone comes up to your car and says, “Can I see your helmet? Is it Snell approved?”
Because the Club is updating the minimum helmet standard for Driving Schools to Snell 90, I became curious and decided to find out more. Here is what I discovered.
Back in 1956 a gentleman by the name of Peter Snell was fatally injured in a racing accident. Several members of the Sports Car Club of America at the time wanted to memorialize Peter because he was so well respected. The outcome of this desire became known as the Snell Foundation. The primary focus of the foundation was to ensure suitable head protection for motorsports participants.
The Snell foundation is now known for its ongoing work in setting, maintaining, and upgrading the highest helmet standards in the US and throughout the world. Helmets meeting Snell standards significantly surpass those set by the US Department of Transportation (DOT), the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), and the Society of Testing Materials (ASTM).
The Snell Foundation currently tests over 6,000 helmets each year and maintains neutrality by remaining independent of helmet manufacturers, and government bodies! They do not accept donations from individuals or companies with a financial interest in the production of safety helmets. They are primarily interested in developing and promoting the latest in safety standards for helmets. Their income comes from testing fees and the sale of Snell Approved Labels. The labels found in all helmets meeting Snell standards are bought directly from the Snell Foundation. Each label, in each helmet, costs the manufacturer about 40 cents.
The testing that’s done for a specific helmet model to pass inspection is incredible. They do a retention test, which is a dynamic strength test. They do a roll-off test (how easily it falls off the head), and a penetration test. This is followed by an impact series where they hit each helmet nine times, four times in the front, four times in the back, and once on top. The eight hits to the front and rear are in only four locations, using a laser guiding system to ensure the same exact spot is hit twice (For the engineers out there – the force used is a 150 joule impact-energy on the first hit and then 110 joule impact-energy on the second hit in the same location.) The penetration test is conducted by shooting the shield with a pellet moving at 500 kilometers per hour.
What I found very interesting is that they do all these tests under conditions normally found in nature: hot, cold, wet and ambient. This means they demolish four helmet samples for each helmet model tested: one for each of the various conditions.
So you might be asking yourself why must I stop using my beautiful helmet just because it only has a Snell 85 Rating. I easily found an answer for that question!
The Snell Foundation recommends that helmets be replaced every five years. This isn’t a policy that stems from a capitalistic desire to make more money. It comes from an objective to provide the safest head protection available. The intent is safety! Helmets have to be replaced because a variety of factors can cause the liners to degrade, such as the glue that holds the liner to the inside of the shell, perspiration, hair oil, and the normal compacting through long term use. The bottom line…. If the liner becomes deteriorated – your head is not as well protected. So as a general policy, because of normal degradation and improvements in the helmet, Snell recommends that helmets be replaced every five years.
The Driving Schools are all about safety, not speed. The safety we are concerned about is yours. Protect your head. It’s the only one you get! Buy your helmet now, so that come Spring you will be prepared!
How to Buy a Proper Fitting Helmet
Here are a few very important things to keep in mind when you buy a helmet: Below you will find a chart of sizes – use this to start the process. Measure around your head just above the ears and about an inch above your eyebrows. The chart should be thought of as a guide – not an absolute rule! It is important to keep in mind that people’s heads are of different shapes. Although two different people may have the same measurement, the shape of the head will have a dramatic effect on how well a helmet fits.
A helmet must be the proper size for your head if it is going to offer its full protection to you. A helmet that is too big is not a safe solution! For maximum protection, a helmet should fit snugly, not tight and uncomfortable, but snug.
After you have measured your head and gotten an approximate size, now you are ready for the second step. Put the helmet on and strap it securely, now hold your head still and try to roll the helmet off your head forward. If the helmet comes off you need a larger size!
The next test is to hold your head steady while grasping the helmet with both hands, try to move or rotate the helmet while keeping your head still. If the helmet moves around on your head while your head stayed still – try a smaller helmet!
If you can’t seem to get a good fit because size is too big and the next smaller size is too tight – try a different model or a different manufacturer. There is a great deal of difference in the same size from one manufacturer to another.
So where do you go to try these helmets? In the past I have always gone to motorcycle shops, they have a large selection and a knowledgeable staff that can help answer your questions.
Re-printed from der BAYERISCHE BRIEF. Article by JD Walter.
And check out smf.org for a lot more info on SNELL.
Jules: with BELL helmets Taymen paintjobs start from about RM800. :)… or really high quality paintjobs by BELL Racing Europe from RM1800 (following FIA guidelines to the T).
Bought a cheapo helmet last week from Bali that has a Snell M2000 and DOT sticker on it… does that mean it is not even Snell 85?
[quote=ST]Bought a cheapo helmet last week from Bali that has a Snell M2000 and DOT sticker on it… does that mean it is not even Snell 85?
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Snell M2000?…..god forbid, what is that?[quote=naza][quote=ST]Bought a cheapo helmet last week from Bali that has a Snell M2000 and DOT sticker on it… does that mean it is not even Snell 85?
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Snell M2000?…..god forbid, what is that?[/quote]Snell M2000 is the motorbike certification, M for motorbike. For car racing you’re looking at SA2000/2005 helmets, SA for Special Application.
M2000 is approved for use in some karting/autocross categories in some countries.
If it was a “cheapo” helmet – anything under a few hundred ringgit then I VERY much doubt it is genuinely SNELL certified. What brand/model is it? You can find all the helemts that are certified M2000 HERE.
Check inside the helmet/on the chin strap etc. to see if it has a SNELL sticker.
[quote=mikko][quote=ST]Bought a cheapo helmet last week from Bali that has a Snell M2000 and DOT sticker on it… does that mean it is not even Snell 85? [/quote]
Check inside the helmet/on the chin strap etc. to see if it has a SNELL sticker. [/quote]
Ya loh, check carefully and see whether it is SNELL or SNEIL oh!
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